The current state of XSI leaves room for improvement. Let’s collect all ideas and arguments here…
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The current state of XSI leaves room for improvement. Let’s collect all ideas and arguments here…
Links to previous discussions on the topic:
we can maybe add some “prize” for people of XSI that actually get a new citizen onboard? well, it’s kind of bounty in this case… i don’t know… i mean it is “social” because you are actually spreading the XIO’s word to other people…
Here is a more formal address of the problems I see with the current policy.
Current XSI Policies (as I understand them):
Problematic Policies under Review:
Why are these policies problematic?
Policy Prescriptions (how we fix it):
your reply is 90% about freeing tokens and or dates about when snapshot is taken… i think this topic is much more about how to get XSI better (but not in money management way!)… i mean about how we can contribute to make XIO better, not on how we can free our tokens exactly 1 minute after the XSI snapshot is taken…
Here are my thoughts on making the XIO Social Better/more transparent:
I see a problem with definitions…so lets begin with clearly defining the following on the XIO.To website and XSI telegram group:
a) minimum threshold for XIO Social
b) what all is included in XIO Social (XLP, token balance etc.)
c) which date is the snapshot taken and the 30 days criterion for xio in account
d) which date and time leaderboard freezes for the xio social posts
e) process to participate in XIO SOcial(get an XID)
f) general forums on which XIO Social posts appear(twitter, linkedin, facebook, xio social website, telegram)
As has been pointed out before by many users, we should make the snapshot date same as date of leaderboard snapshot just to avoid confusion around it.
#xiosocial should generally have uniform giveaway (3 points) for good posts(0 for bad) but the team can give more points in case of any exceptionally important comment as per discretion.
All social media platforms can be utilized to increase the reach of the program.
I wont want to change the rewards structure of XIO as I feel it works very well and is a strong motivation for active participation in the community(10% of total rewards for 1-10 , 5% till 25 and so on)…lets not change what is working well here.
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The current XSI is working fine, but not great. I think we are on to something but need to make it better as you said. Will try to collect my thoughts here so that we can aggregate opinions and ideas:
Section 1 (Value/Purpose):
Goals: With XSI we want to
Problems: In order to achieve above mentioned goals we must
Section 2 (Reward Scheme):
Goals: We want to
Problems: Currently I think
Conclusion
Looking at the current scheme I believe I see 2 problems: The first one being that the community can contribute more, and the second one is that the longer it takes somebody to join the XIO program, their reward will be severely skewed as the majority of the XSI gains will come from the % gain on the existing XIO holdings.
For newcomers, maybe they could be employed in some fashion as SwissBorg does with their DAO. That would give them the opportunity to contribute with their specific skills (promotion for example or creating creatives).
My main concern is how to spark even better engagement from the community in terms of ideas and activity. While I was first drawn by the reward program, I stayed because of the mission and in my opinion long term value which will be massive.
I also agree with statements like these:
Proposal for if XSI social was to be reformed
Summary
a) A #XIOsocial question pool on the new XSI forum.
b) XSI FAQ telegram group bot to save admins time with commonly asked questions.
c) #XIOflashsocial to raise quick awareness of XIO on relevant social media posts.
d) Stick to a maximum of 1 high scoring and 3 low scoring #XIOsocials per week to increase responses with value.
e) A fixed total reward pay-out per month, spread across a maximum of top 500 participating in XSI. Share % of fixed reward to be leaderboard rank based, rather than just a pay-out based on a % of your holdings. All to improve XSI/SMS insider wallet fund sustainability.
Detail
a) The purpose of a #XIOsocial question pool would be for citizens to be able submit questions relating to XIO improvements or future development, in which the answer is non binary and the possible responses could provide value back to the network.
I propose that these questions are submitted through the new XSI forum within a category named ‘#XIOsocial question pool’ or something similar. If a question is selected from the pool by admins (as it is deemed a question that could provide value back to the network) and is broadcasted as a #XIOsocial question, I suggest the XID which submitted it receives a 2X XSI point multiplier on XSI total that month as a big incentive to continue the good work.
I believe a carefully thought out and worded questions with an okay response can create just as much value or more to the XIO network, than an okay question with a fantastic response.
A maximum submission limit of 2 questions per month would be beneficial to prevent someone trying to game the system.
If the question pool is decided to be voted on in a more disturbed way, the pool could be voted on by citizens with a maximum of 2 votes per citizen. A citizen should not be allowed to vote for a question they submitted themselves.
A system would need to be implemented to prevent someone voting for themselves with another XID they may have created in attempt to game the system.
A citizen should receive an additional 5 credits towards XSI leader board per vote made as an incentive to vote.
The 2 questions with the most votes from that month’s pool could be broadcast for the next month’s XSI. The next top 10 highest voted questions in the pool in a single month, could be entered into the next month’s pool automatically, without a citizen losing a question submission allowance that following month. The questions ranking below top 12 could be deleted automatically.
b) A large proportion of people first discover XIO through telegram.
The same questions seem to be repeated by many regarding the rules of XSI. Responding to these can be very time consuming for admins. Integrating a basic FAQ bot into telegram channels could be very beneficial. As an example if someone typed /FAQ the bot could ask XSI or XLP, the user types /XSI for example and it could present a link to the new XSI forum where there could be official XSI FAQ to find out everything they should need to know. Implement such a bot would provide clarity on the XSI rules to new comers without taking up admins time replying to repeated questions.
c) The purpose of #XIOflashsocial would be to raise quick awareness of XIO on a social media posts deemed relevant by admins. The response times to these to earn points should be capped at 24hours otherwise responses may not be so rapid.
#XIOflashsocial is another name for ‘XIO flash mob’ which has been suggested by others in the community. As catchy as ‘XIO flash mob’ sounds the term ‘mob’ could make XIO be perceived in a poor light, as though the citizens are out to cause trouble on another community’s social media post. The definition of ‘mob’ is “a large crowd of people, especially one that is disorderly and intent on causing trouble or violence”.
d) Stick to a maximum limit of 1 high scoring and 3 low scoring #XIOsocials per week I believe is a suitable limit to allow people time to thoroughly think through their responses which may increase the likelihood of a response with value. It normally takes myself a few days to think through my response.
The limit should also help those with busy lives to be more engaged and more likely to respond.
e) Someone else has already mentioned something similar to this. I believe a fixed total reward pay-out per month, spread across a maximum number of citizens participating in XSI. The pay-out % of fixed reward each participating XSI citizen receives should be based upon leaderboard rank like it is now with the percentages altered to fit the 100% fixed monthly pay-out split. Implementing this instead of just a paying-out rewards based on a % of your holdings, should greatly improve the sustainability of the XSI/ SMS insider wallet funds.
It should also make it possible to more accurately determine a required re-fill rate for this wallet (if that is to be implemented in future) which could make XSI forever sustainable. The fixed total reward pay-out per month could equal the wallet re-fill rate. This way the wallet balance would never drop.
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This is a mischaracterization of what I’ve said. Nowhere in there have I mentioned anything about “freeing the token” so I can sell it. As a matter of fact, when I originally brought up these concerns, that was the response to me by one of the team members, that I’m now free to sell the token, and that was totally off-base because that’s not what I want to do, nor what I think we should be encouraging people to do.
This is all about fairness, not disadvantaging token holders based on when they were able to invest. It’s about clear communication. It’s about removing the potential perception of playing favorites. It’s about making rules intuitive and not relying on a “read the fine print” mentality. These are things that are important in building a community, otherwise there starts to develop a lack of trust between community and team.
sorry. maybe i misunderstood your words.
Totally with you on this one! Over time as we evolve we need to tackle these issues. For now, as we are early I am also more tolerant of mistakes or holes in the road, thats why the project is new after all. But if we want to move forward and actually grow it, we need to look at all aspects, from big to small, and improve them.
I believe this is a very good observation. That will not only help people use the systems in place, but make the whole project closer to peoples hearts.
Don’t know if I’m incorrect in my understanding that only posts under the “XIO Social” tabs are taken into consideration when distributing credits to the community. (when it comes to the forum) but if that is the case;
I think it would help the project if everything that is aimed to bring some sort of value to the community are credited.
I find it a bit wonky that a thumbs up and reply on a youtube video is “worth” more then the arguments/ideas presented by the author and the repliers in this post, if we use it as an example.
The question on how to automate something like this… I have no idea what so ever though.
Hey JJW, that’s certainly a point. At the same time it aims at different things. Liking and commenting on Youtube, Facebook, Twitter and the like is also helpful to increase overall exposure a post gets. We try to collect all arguments inside this forum. The other platforms are especially useful to be more visible. Rules for the XIOsocial are not written in stone and might be adjusted some day.
Maybe we could have 2 XSI categories (goals).
That way we would have 2 clear and different goals and all of us would know that if we want to contribute to the project, forum is the way to go. Overall visibility for the project, social media.
But then again, I am biased as I do prefer forum to other options…